Rian Satterwhite (Service Learning and Leadership) was interviewed for the podcast "Innovative Leaders Driving Thriving Organizations" at the International Leadership Association’s annual conference in October. The episode, explores how leadership theory and practice can benefit from framing the biosphere as a fundamental context for leadership. Satterwhite is representing the work of the 2018 Routledge book , which he co-edited and will be out in paperback soon.